Above: DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse in Beijing. 800 presidents and prime ministers met Chinese leaders here. Kissinger, Nixon, celebrities, Madame Mao Jiang Qing...
Chinese Meetings - The Chinese Way
MODERN TIMES VILLAGE HEADS KEY TO SUCCESS
HOW WAS YOUR MEETING?
When foreigners tell stories about Chinese meetings, they talk about dinners. Chinese want to surprise foreigners with exotic dishes. Much less is told about what happens during the real meetings.
FOREIGNERS WANT SPEED
In Beijing over 65.000 foreigners "work hard" to build Chinese businesses. Their life is meetings after meetings. Many believe that progress could be made faster.
What is blocking the speed? Have foreigners understood Chinese mentality correctly? Are meetings in China effective enough to support faster speed? Are foreigners effective when communicating with Chinese?
IN CHINA NEVER ASK "WHY"
This was one of my first learnings in China. I was advised by head of chamber of commerce who had 25 years experience of life in China. He told me that never-ask-why rule will save my time and help me not to get stuck into situations.
I kept that rule, for many years it seemed to be valid. Not so any more. Now speed of business and new choices require the WHY word.
INSIDER OR OUTSIDER
Many foreigners who do business in China say, that they can't really trust Chinese. They forget to ask themselves how many Chinese trust me?
DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse is now open for business meetings. It was built 800 years ago as a fishing terrace for Emperor ZhangZong (1113-1234) of Jin Dynasty. Today DiaoYuTai is the most elegant and exclusive meeting place in Beijing.
Chinese employees sense foreigners' attitudes. If a foreigner becomes labeled as a "real foreigner", it's not helpful. Being a "real foreigner" equals "an outsider". With such a status business development in China will become slow and difficult.
MY FUTURE IS MINE
Foreigners have a mindset of working for their company. Chinese are different. Since ancient times till today, Chinese parents expect children to be Chu Ren Tou Di, or one head taller than the others. Where is your future if you only work for the others?
Chinese don't feel satisfied when working for a company, even for a multinational corporation with a better pay. They want to work for themselves, or their manager. Why should I serve you? rotates in millions Chinese minds every day.
EMOTIONS INTO USE
A manager can make a difference, and Chinese employees can be responsible and bring results for their manager. For that, Chinese employees must be able to accept their manager fully, admire him/her, be able to rely on him/her, and establish a feeling based emotional bond with him/her. This emotional bond and trust must be mutual. It makes Chinese to work hard for their manager.
Next question in Chinese employee's mind is how much you care about me, if I care about you this much?
Expectation for better compensation raises together with created business results. Chinese compare their social status, money and advantages against others. As a manager, make no failure noticing that. Learn about Chinese way of indirect communication and it's interpretation.
"VILLAGE HEAD" MAKES GOOD MANAGER IN CHINA
Good manager who can bring results, can be a foreigner or local. He/she should be a kind of modern village head, who shows care and thinks for his employees' best. Village head needs to use his/her capacities to win respect. Respect must be mutual and always emotionally loaded.
CHINESE HR USE CHINESE SPICES
In China HR and career decisions are often not rational. Companies have rules and procedures, but emotions hiddenly play major role in Chinese HR. Candidates who would be easy to manage are preferred. Criteria is often set so that individuals with strong own ideas get rejected. This can slow the speed of getting business into scale, pro-activity, innovation and competitiveness.
In China, Guanxi, relations, play major role in career development. Career decisions require balance between internal relations, this is the highest priority, consumes energy and adds complexity.
PRODUCT = PRODUCT + GUANXI
In China the era of pure 100% Guanxi relations based business is about gone. Today your product is 50%, and the rest is Guanxi. Don't overestimate your product, don't underestimate Guanxi which is strong in new China. Use the WHY word to find out the way, backdoors (if needed) and motivation.
DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse. Building No.5 Banquet Hall has 20 of these comfortable chairs.
PRIVATE SALES MEETINGS
In west we have learned that our customers make rational choices and decisions. In China not so. You need to extend your product by the other 50% of Guanxi. Purpose of the private sales meetings is to work for the Guanxi.
You need to win the customer representatives to become your supporters for later pre-sales and sales meetings. You need to be able to answer why business with you is worth of it. That question is much bigger than your product.
During private sales meetings, customer representatives will compare your product's weaknesses and strengths openly to your competition. Customer's requirements are discussed and can be re-set to match. Your company's image is important. Most importantly, Guanxi is built and agreed.
More customer representatives join into these meetings. Products and solutions are introduced in detail and presentations are made. But the content in these pre-sales meetings is not overly meaningful. If you have won the influencers or key decision makers to your side, most likely the others will follow them and become your supporters.
These are formal meetings and time for serious talks. Before the sales meeting you must know who is on your side and will support you. During these meetings the persons you have made Guanxi during earlier private sales meetings, will talk for you. The weak points of your product or solution will not be mentioned, or are set as minor.
PUBLIC BIDDING MEETINGS
During these meetings your goal is to get selected into final short list. Usually 2 alternatives are selected. These meetings can be either serious or formality, depending on the level of your Guanxi.
COMMERCIAL TERMS MEETINGS
You were selected to the short list of two vendors. Now is the time for bargaining. You may quote "10" but you should be ready for "7", or facing additional requirements by customer. Always, and this means ALWAYS, if the key high rank person joins the meeting, you should be ready to give concessions to show your sincerity.
If high rank wants to press his fingerprint into coming contract, you should give something on delivery times, services, prices, or after sales support. Just give-up something. This doesn't need to be one-directional, you can ask customer to make concessions in return.
If Chinese hold strong position in negotiation, they feel confident to be direct instead of being indirect. Directness may also be selected as negotiation strategy: be prepared!
You must get-prepared for this meeting from the beginning. Plan well your play. Know the strength of your Guanxi, worked earlier during private sales meetings. Prepare your concessions. Think through your alternatives. Learn about the 'play'.
It was a full day meeting and seminar in ZhengZhou, Henan province. A square was made, BeijingMan included. How many participants in this meeting?
30 participants, China has scale and big numbers.
In China a good customer presentation is about showing confidence and building image. Details are very important, more so than concepts. You need strong technical knowledge to show your competence and become credible.
You should take authority in technical issues. Then, if you also have good industry knowledge, wider scale discussions can make you an expert, influencer, in customer's eyes. Then your international success stories are taken seriously.
Too often project Kick-Off is the only time to celebrate project. Chinese say Hu Tou She Wei meaning Starting with Tiger's head, ending with Snake's tail. Tiger's big head is a big celebration at the beginning, then it vanishes as a snake's tail.
In multinationals corporations or any large organization, progress is made through meetings and by decisions. I have worked for companies in Europe and U.S., internal meetings could most often be more productive. Multicultural meetings in China are no exception.
Some funny experiences:
- Meeting has no "village head", no agenda, not even purpose
- Not prepared: "I only got to know 2 hours ago about this meeting"
- Participants bring no business cards for later contacts
- Come late, play busy, leave early, avoid action points
- Time kill: read emails and browse, don't participate
- After meeting no memo, no action points
- How to answer mobile phone during a meeting? Bend head under meeting table, disappear and do your murmur. Caller never knows your situation. Seen this many, many times but not been there myself, sofar:)
Village Heads and HQs
Business in China is a fast developing target. To succeed, you have no choice but to understand Chinese market, business culture and way. You must find a capable village head, who is able to develop emotional bond to enact your Chinese for results.
You can go meetings with Chinese and introduce what's in your mind and what outcome you would like to have, to catch reaction. But learn to trust your Chinese collegues when they analyze situation and Chinese behavior, or China market.
China is reforming and new product requirements arise. Your Chinese competitors know this and make fast adaptation. If product modifications are proposed for fit and match, take it seriously or loose the opportunity. In China, speed is essential.
Within Chinese business environment your Chinese team can become as efficient in bringing results as your European or U.S. team in their domestic environments. But you need to listen, estimate and empower.
Foreigners want speed. But slowest actors in Chinese business often are foreigners who want rotate decisions via headquarters in Hong Kong, Singapore, U.S. or Europe. HQs abroad seldom understand about Chinese culture, business realities, or need for speed. HQs which is not able to make decision in Chinese rhythm, loose the opportunity. Winning by empowerment is possible.
BeijingMan aka Kippo
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Above-1: "Fishing Terrace", DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse, Beijing. In Peony Hall, Building No.5, ceiling color changes, unique changing atmosphere for events and dinners. These DiaoYuTai pictures were taken in March 2007, I used Canon 20D, EF-S 10-22mm and Speedlite 580EX.
Above-2: Peony Hall in Building No.5, DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse, Beijing. The complex was built in 1959. It has a small lake, 100.000 pines, cypresses and other trees. 29 good-will trees planted by visiting leaders. Buildings are numbered. Area has also 18 villas with 400 suites.
Above-3: DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse, Beijing.
Peony Hall in Building No.5
Above-4: DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse was built in 1959. In 1971 Henry Kissinger, in 1972 President Nixon, and by now over 800 presidents, prime ministers and celebrities have stayed there. During Culture Revolution Madame Mao Jiang Qing lived in DiaoYuTai.
Above-5: DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse, Beijing.
Peony Hall in Building No.5.
Above-6: DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse, Beijing.
This business dinner was 800RMB per person, abt. 80EUR/110USD.
Above-7: DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse, Beijing. Host gives welcoming speech. Business talks took about an hour, then 2-hour dinner and flow of entertaining artists performing music, singing, dancing, magic, and Peking Opera.
Above-8: DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse, Beijing. Peony Hall in Building No.5 is not small, this time 80 persons participated, 8 big round tables. Later event's host and a few key persons went to raise toast with each customer table.
Above-9: DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse, Beijing.
Banquet Hall of Building No. 5.
Above-10: BeijingMan in Banquet Hall of Building No.5 in DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse, Beijing. For presidents and celebrities.
- Elegant facilities, good quality, professional service personnel, unique history, just top place in China.
Above-11: DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse, Beijing.
Meeting room in Building No.5
Above-12: DiaoYuTai State Guesthouse, Beijing.
Banquet Hall of Building No.5
Above-13: Chinese Meetings! How many me? A painting at MeiShuGuan National Art Gallery, Beijing.
Above-14: A side meeting during a conference in Shanghai.
Above-15: Neusoft JV-partner meeting was held in Beijing. Afterwards we went to special goose head restaurant at main avenue to celebrate. I eat three crispy half-heads. Fits well with cold beer.
Above-16: Meeting is done. Western dinner with Nokia Ventures partner at Morels Restaurant, GongTiBeiLu, Beijing. Morels is known for their Brussels Pepper Steak, Belgium beer and deserts.
Above-17: Presentations and meetings in ZhengZhou, Henan Province, one hour flight from Beijing to South. ZhengZhou has 10 million people, Henan 97 million.
Above-18: Meeting in Kunming city, capital of Yunnan province, South China.
Above-19: Meeting in Haikou city in Hainan province, island at South China sea. Not far, in Southern part of Hainan island is a holiday resort city Sanya, it's beaches are among the bests.
Above-20: More relaxed location for a meeting: at an office in Hefei city, Anhui province.
Above-21: This meeting was held at an office in ShiJiazHuang city, capital of Hebei Province, 400 kilometers drive from Beijing. ShiJiazHuang has about 10 million inhabitants, Hebei Province 67 million.
Above-22: Nokia's CEO Jorma Ollila (middle) joined this Beijing meeting with head of Nokia Research Center Tero Ojanpera. Juho Rissanen, representative of Tekes, China, on right.
Above-23: Partner meeting in Shanghai.
Above-24: Nokia's international innovation meeting in HangZhou.
Above-25: Our team had a meeting and dinner. Head of the team is Finn Hermansen, good times.
Above-26: Students participating Java lectures at Beijing University of Aeronautical and Astronautical, BUAA.
Above-27: Our work team for Java trainings and mobile applications at Beijing University of Aeronautical and Astronautical, BUAA.
Above-28: Celebration dinner with students and organizers from Beijing University of Aeronautical and Astronautical, BUAA. After Forum Nokia Mobile Java Application Workshop.
Above-29: Markus Leikola, CEO of A4-Media from Finland had presentation at a conference, then meeting with China Mobile at this west Ring-2 office in Beijing.
Tens of Finnish SMEs (and a lot from other countries) with digital content or applications came to try business in China. Many had excellent products, and opportunities looked huge and bright. But so far I haven't heard of any digital success story.
Chinese way and business culture are difficult for SMEs with limited preparation and resources, no local industry knowledge, and without image buildup. SMEs often trust their IPR protection and are unaware about local tricks and capabilities. Locals seldom are willing to share the revenues, if it is possible to have 100%. Chinese work group recruited by a foreigner often fails. Chinese don't easily accept each other but consider each other as a competitor. This is very sensitive issue. Successful market entry to China can be simple only in your dreams.
Above-30: Foreigners, meetings, dinner. I took this in front of Golden Tripot restaurant (JinDingXuan) which is famous for small Sichuan waitresses.
Above-31: Pieceful street meeting in Kunming, Yunnan province.
Above-32: Any 4-5 star hotel in Beijing can offer this kind rooms for meetings. Usually all services are fine.
Above-33: This meeting room is at Royal Club in Beijing. Refined and has space.
Above-34: This 5-star hotel is one hour drive from Beijing, in XiangHe, “Fragrant River”, Hebei province. Meeting of Group of 20 (G20) was once held here.
Above-35: DiYiCheng near Beijing. G-20 leaders had a meeting here.
Above-36: The biggest meetings in China are held at People's Great Hall, built in 1959. Building is located at TianAnMen Square. I have visited there for dance shows and concerts. The hall can take some 5000 guests and show can have thousand dancers, singers and players flowing through. This place has scale.
LIANG HUI. Every year People's Great Hall hosts Liang Hui, the meeting of National People's Congress (NPC) and The Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC). Meeting takes two weeks. It's like a clockwork and lines are straight. China has many theories and science is used to develop country further.
Above-37: Yes, I climb roof tops for photos. This is view over GongTiBeiLu avenue in Beijing. Up-right, elegant building with horizontal lines is Hotel Swissotel, also known as Gang-Ao ZhongXing or HongKong-Macao Center.
Hotel Swissotel is no more the same 5-star paradise it used to be. For several years I used Swissotel's gym, so I know it well. Gym facilities were quite good but gym's management was not able to safeguard level of quality, which resulted poor price/quality ratio. One lady with a gym year card to Swissotel got pregnant, for 6 months couldn't use the gym and management refused to extend her gym period but unfairly collected their not-small fee for nothing. Of course they lost customer and money. Some 40 5-star and 60 4-star hotels in Beijing, and many good independent gyms.
Above-38: View from Shanghai JC Mandarin Hotel. Compared to Beijing, Shanghai is more small business oriented. People in Shanghai speak better English. In my opinion, Shanghai is "short term" and quik profits, Beijing "long term" and scale.
Foreigners like more to live in Shanghai. Life is easier as people there are more eager to use English. Shanghai has more good quality Western restaurants compared to Beijing. I don't know better Hard Rock Cafe in China than the one in Shanghai.
Any differences between Shanghainers and Beijingers? Yes, Beijingers consider Shanghainers as chasing the money, while Beijingers are considered as kind of intellectuals, meaning when Shanghainers visit to Beijing, they tend to be pretty silent... Maybe I have a bit pro-Beijing view on this:) Sorry Shanghai!
Above-39: View over large GuangZhou city from my hotel room on 60th floor of International Hotel. It was good to sleep up here, a step nearer the sky. GuangZhou is the 3rd important city in China and capital of GuangDong province.
If Beijing is intellectuals, Shanghai is money and smaller businesses, then GuangZhou is speed and manufacturing. Many new things into China markets come via GuangZhou which is located near Hong Kong.
Above-40: This is Kunming, the capital of Yunnan province. opposite on the right is Holiday Inn, I took this picture from Kunming Hotel. Nice town, pleasant climate, one good pizza owen and good pizzas!
Above-41: View over big ZhengZhou city in Henan province. I have visited there many times and every time city seems to be just like this.
Above-42: Still in ZhengZhou in Henan. At this point it feels good to sing a bit! Why? Because I am heading towards airport and Beijing.
Above-43: View over Xiamen city in Fujian province, opposite to Taiwan island. Very nice city.
Above-44: View over Haikou city in Hainan, the island province in South China.
Above-45: View over HongKong's Victoria park. HongKong is more refined than cities in the mainland China.
Above-46: View over Singapore. Singapore is more refined than HongKong. View from Conrad Hotel.
Above-47: View over Seoul. Here the ladies drink beer! At restaurant streets I saw tens of tables, only ladies, with a 5-8 liters beer jar on the table! Very different compared to China.
Above-48: A Go-Go after good meeting in Beijing Hilton.
Above-49: Lunch starting with leaders and executives after discussions. Excellent local wine (yes, China has) and dishes filled our table.
© BeijingMan aka Kippo 2012, 2013